Copy NQ as MNQ, and seven other mini to micro pairs

Not every prop account should trade the same contract. A smaller evaluation account may have less drawdown room than your main account, so the full-size contract your Master trades would be too much for it. Or you trade micros on your Master and want one larger account in the full-size contract.

TradeCloner works as a mini to micro trade copier through a per-follower setting called Cross Order. You trade your Master as usual, and TradeCloner copies its trades in real time to your followers. A follower with Cross Order on gets the other size of the contract: NQ on the Master becomes MNQ on that follower, and MNQ becomes NQ.

The eight supported pairs

Full-size contractMicro contractMarket
NQMNQNasdaq-100
ESMESS&P 500
YMMYMDow
RTYM2KRussell 2000
GCMGCGold
CLMCLCrude oil
SISILSilver
HGMHGCopper

Cross Order works in both directions for every pair. Micro silver is SIL.

How Cross Order sizes the follower

This is the part to get right. Cross Order changes the contract, not the count. The number of contracts still comes from that follower's own sizing:

  • Multiplier from 1 to 50: the follower trades the Master's count times its multiplier.
  • Fixed contract count: the follower trades the same count every time, whatever the Master trades.

Example 1, multiplier 1. Your Master buys 1 NQ. A follower with Cross Order on and a multiplier of 1 buys 1 MNQ.

Example 2, multiplier 10. Your Master buys 1 NQ. A follower with Cross Order on and a multiplier of 10 buys 10 MNQ. How 10 MNQ compares to 1 NQ is set by the exchange's contract specifications, so check those before you pick a multiplier.

Example 3, the reverse. Your Master buys 10 MNQ. A follower with Cross Order on and a multiplier of 1 buys 10 NQ: ten full-size contracts, a far larger position than the Master's ten micros. The multiplier cannot go below 1, so when you copy micros into full size, use a fixed contract count or a max contracts cap on that follower to keep its size where you want it.

Turn it on per follower

Cross Order is set for each follower, not for the whole group, so different followers in the same copy group can trade different contract sizes.

  1. Open Groups and click the gear icon on your copy group.
  2. Find the follower in the follower accounts section.
  3. Turn Cross Order on for that follower.
  4. Set that follower's multiplier or fixed contract count, and a max contracts cap.
  5. Save the group.

The Cross Order help article shows the same steps in the app.

Caps still apply

Every follower can have a max contracts cap, and it applies to Cross Order followers like any other. Whatever the multiplier works out to, the follower never goes over its cap. That matters most when you copy a micro Master into a full-size follower, and when an account has a contract limit you need to stay inside.

Your firm's rules come first. Prop firms set their own copy trading rules and change them often. Check your firm's current rules before you connect a copier.

FAQ

Does Cross Order work in reverse, from MNQ to NQ?

Yes. Every pair works in both directions. Copying micros into full size makes the follower's position larger, so use a fixed contract count or a max contracts cap on that follower.

Does Cross Order change the number of contracts?

No. It changes the contract. The count comes from the follower's multiplier or fixed contract count, and its max contracts cap still applies.

Does it work on Tradovate, NinjaTrader, ProjectX and Rithmic followers?

Yes. Cross Order is a per-follower setting, and followers can be on any of the platforms TradeCloner connects: Tradovate, NinjaTrader, ProjectX and Rithmic.

What about other contracts?

Cross Order covers the eight pairs on this page only: NQ and MNQ, ES and MES, YM and MYM, RTY and M2K, GC and MGC, CL and MCL, SI and SIL, HG and MHG.

Is micro silver MSI or SIL?

SIL. Cross Order pairs SI with SIL.

Is there a free trial?

Yes. Copy trading starts with a 7-day free trial, and a card is required to start it. The trade journal, news and economic calendar are free with no card.

Trade the full-size contract on your Master and let each follower trade the size that fits it.

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